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Keeping programs on a separate partition from the OS

Keeping programs on a separate partition from the OS
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For many years (since Windows 3), I've been dividing my primary HD into three partitions - System, Programs and Data. Sooner or later, I'm going to have a FUBAR that forces me to fullyreinstall Windows, an SSD, or some other circumstance that forces me to rebuild from scratch.

Is there any more reason to continue keeping my programs on a separate partition from my OS? In the past, I did this for ease/clarity of backup; now, with programs "installed" by/into the OS, I'm thinking that program backup without OS backup is a waste of time.

Of course, Data and Backups will continue to be on separate partitions/disks.
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